Phoenix

Compaq no le vendio nada a AMD, HP compro a compaq e Intel compro lo que quedaba de Alpha, la diferencia es que AMD se hizo con el material humano que estaba desarrollando los chips de DEC (la empresa detras de los Alpha's).


una cosa es quien maneje los hilos de una empresa y otra, quien diseña el producto, Otellini no diseño el Core2 Duo, sin embargo le ha ido bastante bien.

la verdad, es que han desperdiciado bastantes oportunidades de darle un empujon a Geode, creo que es algo que estan debiendo hace rato.

yo creo que en el mediano-largo plazo, los accionistas amarán a Hector Ruiz por haber comprado ATI en un momento clave, yo creo que ese es el mayor merito que tiene (ademas de haber amarrado a varios ensambladores OEM y mantenerlos sin tener un producto realmente competitivo), porque lo relacionado con los productos, es un problema que ha arrastrado AMD desde siempre, y que tiene que ver con la capacidad de produccion, las platas de desarrollo y el cumplimiento de los tiempos.

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Cuando mencione que AMD compro parte del proyecto del Hypertransport de Compaq en su tiempo era un proyecto era de ellos para el Alpha esta empresa se llamaba API NetWorks Inc. Para demostra lo que menciono aquí la prueba. “In 1999, the production of Alpha chips was licensed to Samsung Electronics Company. Following the purchase of Digital by Compaq the majority of the Alpha products were placed with API NetWorks, Inc. (previously Alpha Processor Inc.), a private company funded by Samsung and Compaq. In October 2001, Microway became the exclusive sales and service provider of API NetWorks' Alpha-based product line”
Fuente: DEC Alpha.

La nota de Microway:
Microway named master distributor and exclusive service provider for API NetWorks' Alpha-based product-line
Plymouth, MA -- October 24, 2001 -- Microway, a leading manufacturer of custom configured Alpha based Linux Beowulf Clusters and UNIX servers, today announced it has signed an agreement to be the exclusive sales and service provider of API NetWorks' Alpha-based product line. Through this agreement, Microway will assume responsibility for servicing API NetWorks' current customer base located in North and South America, Europe and Japan. This agreement also names Microway as the master distributor of API NetWorks' Alpha based products in the named regions. API chose Microway based on the solid combination of extensive technical expertise, demonstrated financial stability and long standing experience with Alpha based products.
"As a respected leader in the Supercomputing market, we understand the need of customers for continued technical support, outstanding service and advanced technology," said Ann Fried, Chairperson of Microway. "All past API NetWorks' customers can be assured that Microway has the technology and expertise necessary to provide ongoing superior service. This exclusive agreement with API NetWorks allows us to further expand our customer base. In addition, it insures that our leadership role in Alpha-based Beowulf clusters will continue for years to come."
Gerry Talbot, President and CTO of API NetWorks commented, "This agreement demonstrates our commitment to insuring existing customers have access to the highest quality of service as we focus on the HyperTransportTM technology market. Microway is API NetWorks' largest North American reseller. Their experience with Alpha based products extends over six years and they are recognized as a leading manufacturer of reliable, high-performance computing solutions in the industry."
Recently API NetWorks shifted focus onto their HyperTransportTM component technologies, targeted towards the performance and bandwidth-hungry communications, networking and storage markets.
About Microway, Inc.
A major vendor in the Supercomputing marketplace, Microway provides state of the art, cost effective, high end Linux and UNIX solutions to universities, financial institutions, Fortune 500 corporations and government research agencies worldwide. Incorporated in 1982, the company currently integrates Alpha, Pentium, and Athlon processors into Linux and UNIX based clusters, servers and workstations. Microway also manufactures dual Alpha 21264 motherboards and daughtercards. Its trademarks include NumberSmasher, GigaCube, Screamer, RuggedRak and QuadPuter. For more information, please visit www.microway.com.
About API NetWorks, Inc.
API NetWorks, Inc. is a leading developer of high-speed, I/O interconnect components for the performance and bandwidth-intensive communications, networking and storage markets. API NetWorks' bridge chip and switch solutions are utilized by industry-leading hardware vendors to leverage the power of HyperTransport technology in their next-generation product designs, creating breakthrough control plane performance. Additional information about API NetWorks and its complete product line can be accessed on the World Wide Web at www.api-networks.com.

Veras que no se menciona AMD sobre el Hypertransport si no la empresa Api Networks que fue la creadora original de ex-empledos de DEC. Su presidente David Rich del Hypertransport era el administrador de API NetWorks. La nota sobre la primera vez que se presento el Hypertransport 1.0 fue por API NetWorks como sale esta nota:
API NetWorks to Demonstrate Maturity of HyperTransport Technology, Performance Benefits of Its Component Technologies at Comdex 2001
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 12, 2001Comdex 2001, Las Vegas Convention Center, HyperTransport Consortium Suite # LN262--
First-ever demonstrations to illustrate breakthroughs in next-generation communications, networking and storage product designs
API NetWorks, Inc., a leading developer of high-speed, I/O interconnect components, today announced the demonstration of key technology breakthroughs that illustrate the maturity of HyperTransport(TM) technology as the in-the-box I/O solution for system designers in the communications, networking and storage markets. These achievements and the first implementations of API NetWorks' HyperTransport PCI bridge chip and HyperTransport switch will be showcased for the first time at the Comdex 2001 tradeshow in the HyperTransport Consortium pressroom this week.
Most significantly, API NetWorks will publicly demonstrate the industry's first HyperTransport switch, its recently announced AP4041 4-port HyperTransport switch. The demonstration will show how system designers can achieve higher bandwidth (up to 102.4 Gigabits/sec) and lowered latency with HyperTransport technology by using the AP4041 in system designs. Improved performance of "peer-to-peer" traffic is demonstrated and achieved through the true high-performance crossbar architecture of the AP4041 switch, which was introduced last week as the first in API NetWorks' Starfish family of switch products.
API NetWorks will also be showing a high bandwidth HyperTransport link working through a cable and connectors, a configuration that was first shown publicly in June, 2001. The availability of a cable and connector allows reference designs from multiple vendors to be interconnected as well as providing topological flexibility to system designers. Additionally, the company will demonstrate its AP1011, the industry's first HyperTransport PCI bridge chip. This demonstration shows the HyperTransport I/O link as completely compatible with existing PCI technologies and easy to implement, offering high performance by providing system designers up to 2 GigaBytes/sec of I/O bandwidth on each link.
Off the showroom floor and in the lab, API NetWorks has been working to further the HyperTransport standard toward mass adoption, as evidenced by the following achievements:
-- API NetWorks is broadening the reach of HyperTransport technology by developing reference designs, such as the ones being demonstrated at Comdex this week. These designs allow customers to easily evaluate API NetWorks' components with minimum effort.
-- API NetWorks has booted Windows NT and Linux on systems without modification to the operating systems (OS), which demonstrates the compatibility of HyperTransport technology with existing peripherals, drivers, OS and BIOS software.
"With HyperTransport, designers are able to now simplify designs by using a common protocol for in-chassis connections to I/O and processors while preserving their existing PCI-based applications, drivers and operating system software. System designs become more flexible with much higher performance and scalability," said David Rich, general manager at API NetWorks. "API NetWorks' engineering skills on both the components and the continued development of the specification are a driving force in moving the standard forward..Additional information about HyperTransport technology or the HyperTransport Consortium can be accessed on the World Wide Web: HyperTransport.org.

About API NetWorks, Inc.
API NetWorks, Inc. is a leading developer of high-speed, I/O interconnect components for the performance and bandwidth-intensive communications, networking and storage markets. API NetWorks' bridge chip and switch solutions are utilized by industry-leading hardware vendors to leverage the power of HyperTransport(TM) technology in their next-generation product designs, creating breakthrough control plane performance.
Through its HyperTransport(TM) technology products and work in developing the standard itself, API NetWorks has become recognized as the leading authority on the adoption and application of HyperTransport technology in the communications, networking and storage markets by industry-leading hardware vendors. Additional information about API NetWorks and its complete product line can be accessed on the World Wide Web at www.api-networks.com. HyperTransport is a trademark of the HyperTransport Consortium

Veran que no se implemento primero en el Opteron si como solucion de los puertos I/O en los servers.Que le paso la API NetWorks quebro los empleados fueron adsorbidos en el Mayo de 2002 por AMD para formar el Boston Design Center. Los paradogico es como menciona la nota “API essentially folded because of a lack of financial support from Samsung, one of the company's chief investors, according to Ludden. API NetWorks was originally formed as a sales and marketing firm for the Alpha microprocessor following Compaq's acquisition of Digital Equipment Corp. When the Alpha design was sold to Intel last year, API NetWorks shifted its company focus to designing HyperTransport components. API's AP4041 "Starfish" HyperTransport switch and other HypeTransport products had garnered 45 design wins, Ludden said” Si Intel con varias tegnologias de DEC sea software o hardware como el caso de la experencia de copiladores de 64 bits y micros StrongARM o XScale que despues paso a Maxwell.

Por ultimo debo recordar que muchos CEO de la industria han cometidos errores como exCEO HP Fiorina que despues sale en opinion publica que sus colobadores hacian practicas poco eticas con sus empleados, igual que le sucedió al de Motorla en dividirlo en dos que al final le salio peor para los accionistas, lo mismo paso con Dell mejor renunci el que estaba y regreso su co-fundador, como Apple tambien sucede que no hay nadie dentro de la corporacion que quiere cambiar la cultura que tenia como le paso a Sony que su CEO no sabe hablar japones no vive en japon si no New York ni sabe nada de electronica pero si sabe lo que los clientes desean. Ser un CEO no es tener un titulo de AMB si no un ejecutivo que tiene habilidades y ser pionero en los nuevos negocios que funcionan. Por eso se dice que los ejecutivos que salen de GE son los mejores no por los titulos si no los objetivos de nuevos negocios y mejorar los que ellos ya tiene.

Phoenix

y donde sale que AMD compro desarrollos de Compaq?, ahi solo habla de ex-empleados, que hicieron la transferencia tecnologica porque traian los conocimientos..

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Compaq vendió la propiedad intelectual de DEC (especificiamente, Alpha) a Intel.

Lo que hizo AMD fue contratar a los ingenieros del proyecto Alpha, que sí o sí se llevaron todas las ideas del diseño original dentro de sus cabezas.

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[strike]21 de abril del 2002 se lanza el opteron, 22 de abril 2003 es puesto a la venta y es el First Release
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en realidad DEC-Alpha "prestó" a Capitan Dirk (el sueldo lo pagaba AMD) y luego fue contratado despues de la compra por parte de compaq

amd lisensia ev6 de dec alpha para sus k7 (96-97)
dec alpha es comprado por compaq 1998
lanzamiento del k7 (23 junio 1999)
intel compra alpha a hp-compaq 2001

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Fanuc

Cuando menciono que es de Compaq porque oficialmente era dueña de la corporacion DEC o Digital (Digital Equipment Corporation) desde el 1998, fue cuando estaba Atiq Raza en AMD desarrollando el K7 que incorpo al equipo Dirk Meyer, a parte de a ser la arquitectura tambien otro detalle que AMD decidió adquirir los derechos sobre el socket del Alpha EV6, el FSB utilizado por la última generación los Alpha 21264, con el tiempo AMD incorporó a más ingenieros de Alpha. Tambien era accionista de las compañias que separaron como API Networks recuerda que fue un Join Venturi con Samsung.

Microway adquirio los derechos de fabricar los tarjetas madres y sistemas del mismo. La fabricacion de los micros Alpha estaba en manos de Samsung algunos modelos tambien IBM, el diseño los Aplha estaba todavia en manos en esa epoca de Compaq. Lo del Hypertransport bueno como lo dice la nota:

The History of Alpha Processors.
On October 21, 2001, API (renamed by that moment to API NetWorks) transferred all rights to support Alpha systems (including warranty service) to Microway, the largest [after Compaq] builder of Alpha workstations and servers, an old partner of former DEC. API itself left the Alpha products market, and concentrated its efforts on network technologies, development of HyperTransport bus, and data storage systems.

API NetWorks Winds Down; Engineering Shifts To AMD.
API NetWorks, a booster for the HyperTransport specification, has now essentially become an East Coast design center for AMD an ex-company spokesman said. Guy Ludden, who used to be the marketing communications manager for API, Concord, Mass., said API NetWorks was winding down, with the formal dissolution of the company expected sometime this summer.

"It's a skeleton crew," Ludden said of the remaining staff at API. "The majority of us have opened a design center for AMD. It's called the Boston Design Center, and it was formed at the beginning of March."
AMD announced the formation of the Boston Design Center at the end of February, although the company did not disclose the hiring of the API employees. Gerry Talbot, former president and chief technical officer of API Networks, has been named senior AMD fellow and director of the design center. Currently, the center employs 35 engineers, almost all of them former API employees, an AMD spokesman said.

"Essentially the belief over here is that HyperTransport technology will be the basis of all of our future processor products, ad so we decided to form a solutions team there," said the spokesman for AMD, headquartered in Sunnyvale, Calif. AMD doesn't have any plans to hire additional engineers at the location, the spokesman said.

API essentially folded because of a lack of financial support from Samsung, one of the company's chief investors, according to Ludden. API NetWorks was originally formed as a sales and marketing firm for the Alpha microprocessor following Compaq's acquisition of Digital Equipment Corp. When the Alpha design was sold to Intel last year, API NetWorks shifted its company focus to designing HyperTransport components. API's AP4041 "Starfish" HyperTransport switch and other HypeTransport products had garnered 45 design wins, Ludden said.

Curioso tengo la informacion de API Networks su producto del AP4041 la version HT1.0, que ahora lo quedaba de ese producto lo compro Alliance Semiconductor una empresa Holding, siguio desarollando como empresa Tundra Semiconductor Corporation que lo renombraron Tundra Tsi30x, interesante que uno pensaba que Nvidia, Broadcom y Ati, que podian surtir de bridges connect HT para las tarjetas madres. Hoy en vez de decir Compaq debi haber dicho HP, me disculpo a veces se me pasa que algunos no saben la historia de algunas marcas o tegnologias viejas crea confusion.

locate_de_atar

Fanuc, me parese muy esactos tus comentarios lo que yo trato de hacer es ayudar con fechas y nada mas

Cyrix crea el primer cpu con video y sonido en arquitectura x86(1997), por problemas legales (con intel) se fusiona con Nacional y posterior mente comprado (cyrix) por via (o mejor dicho la lisensia x86), pero Nacional todavía era dueño de MediaGX y es rebautizado como Geode, que finalmente es comprado por AMD (2003).

y con respecto a geode amd lo esta tomando muy enserio pero ahora le dise fusion.

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Me quedo con tus ultimas frases, pero agrego que AMD representa por + pòr mucho +, lo que estas empresas en algun momento representeron, Ni Intel ni Nvida ni Ibm representan lo que AMD representa, CPUs, GPUs, Chipsets etc. Ni todo el dinero de Intel y IBM ni la experiencia de Nvida pueden comprar ese prestigio. Es por eso que no entiendo porque no sacarle el jugo a eso, nadie ofrece eso. Vemos a Intel con un nuevo producto una mierda por mas decir, Atom pero vende de echo no tiene como suplir las necesidades de los grades OEMs, Por eso siempre e dicho AMD deberia de tener un departamento tipo Apple o M$ que venda, aunque el producto sea una verdadera kk.

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Phoenix

nuevamente, ahi no dice que Compaq o HP le haya vendido nada a AMD, lo unico que queda claro, es que la gente que estaba trabajando en la creacion de Hypertransport paso a trabajar para AMD ya que el proyecto de Alpha murio con la adquisicion de DEC por parte de Intel.

AMD no podia comprarle nada a Compaq, si esta ya no existia como empresa, a HP tampoco, porque segun lo que muestras, el desarrollo del HT estaba a cargo de una firma externa a DEC que no fue adquirida por HP ni por Intel.

AMD como bien dices, lo unico que licencio fue el bus del EV6 en el tiempo en que DEC aun era independiente, y el cual dejó de implementarse con el Athlon XP.

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